In this episode Dinesh has a wide-ranging conversation with acclaimed author J.D. Vance, whose bestselling book “Hillbilly Elegy” is now a Netflix movie directed by Ron Howard. Dinesh and J.D. talk about the crisis at the border, Nancy Pelosi’s contention that illegals are the true embodiments of the American dream, and why illegal immigration is unfair both to native-born Americans and also to foreigners in distant countries who are waiting in line. Other topics covered are the real reason for hostility to Asian Americans, what truths cancel culture seeks to keep from public view, and why the slogan “white privilege” fails to capture how people climb the ladder of success.